About the new Lada Granta. What did the Lada Grant get and what did it lose after the update? Experience high mileage frets grants pl

The car, known in our country under the name Lada Granta, has become a successful continuation of the Lada Kalina model. And, for several years of its release, motorists managed to form their opinion about it, which, in many respects, has positive features. We're talking about more powerful engine, as well as roomy cabin which is especially true for our area.

But, of course, there cannot be an engine that would not require a starting run-in, both after its manufacture and after its own overhaul. Today we will give you some tips that relate to the features of running in the Lada Grant power unit.

General information

As soon as the car comes off the assembly line, it needs to be run in.

It is impossible to do this within the manufacturer's enterprise, so this task falls on the shoulders of the buyer.

The need for break-in arises for the simple reason that the parts of the motor have not yet got used to each other, so that work at higher speeds can be complicated. Break-in usually includes work on idling, and power, not more than the basic operating parameter.

If you have purchased 8 valve motor, then you will have the first MOT at 2000 km. After it, it is considered that the engine has already been run-in. But most Lada Grant owners do not give an increased load for at least another 5,000 km.

Running in the engine Lada Granta

Speed ​​​​modes during engine break-in (excerpt from the operation manual)

In principle, running-in should be carried out for almost all parts, but for the motor it will be the most in demand.

After purchasing a new Grant, you will need to fully charge battery, because it could be discharged while the car was at the dealer. Next, you need to check. And, of course, it is necessary to conduct a complete visual and functional inspection of the car, which would help to establish the presence of certain malfunctions. In most cases, this is enough to detect serious flaws. Minor problems will manifest themselves in the first few hundred kilometers.

Absolutely no problems were found during engine operation. internal combustion that says about good quality car.

What not to do when running in a Lada Grant engine

If you do not want to send your car for repair immediately, then you should listen to the advice of experts who will tell you what not to do during a break-in. These recommendations will help to avoid overloading parts that have not yet been ground to each other, which as a result can lead to vehicle breakdown.

In general, there will be five points.

  1. The first recommendation would be that the revolutions should not reach the mark of two thousand revolutions. This is especially true for a sharp increase in speed when you are actively working with the gas pedal.
  2. The second tip says that the car should not be overloaded, neither with luggage, nor with people. Riding with two passengers and very few things will be optimal. This will further reduce the load.
  3. Point number three suggests that hard braking is best avoided. Pay attention to "engine braking", which will be even more harmful to an untested car.
  4. The fourth tip suggests the undesirability of driving in critical gears. Most often, we are talking about the maximum (fifth) gear. But up to this indicator, it will be enough to adhere only to advice on the number of revolutions.
  5. And, of course, it is worth highlighting that driving on highways will be undesirable. The reason for this is that the average speed on such roads will reach one hundred kilometers per hour, which is an excessive figure for the new Lada Grant.

Always try to listen carefully extraneous noise that gives your car. This is especially important during break-in and, especially, the first start of the engine. If you hear something suspicious, you should immediately turn off the engine. This will help avoid costly repairs. It's one thing when the sensor of one of the engine control systems is faulty, and a completely different situation will arise if.

There is an opinion that the Grant model does not need to be run-in after purchase at all. This statement is based on the fact that the manufacturer carries out tests at the factory. But, of course, you should not listen to such advice, as your car and financial condition will suffer from them.

As mechanics with sufficient experience assure, the break-in of the car significantly extends the period of time when the car does not require from its owner special service or complete replacement parts that have failed. The main rule will be that it is impossible, under any circumstances, to reach extreme modes of operation, both in terms of speed and in the number of revolutions.

Running in will help the motor develop its own dynamics, according to which it will continue to work. If this is not done, then the positive specifications will be reduced, and the quality of the parts will suffer significantly.

If there is no need for additional power, then the tachometer needle should be at around two thousand revolutions. There may be exceptions during overtaking or other maneuvers, when you can briefly accelerate the engine to three thousand revolutions.

General recommendations on bodies (sedan, liftback, sport) and trim levels (standard, norm, luxury)

Three bodies of Lada Grants

Try to maintain the smoothest possible performance up to three thousand kilometers. Speeds, if possible, need to be alternated, preventing the car from moving for a long time and monotonously.

Sharp accelerations and jerks, of course, should be avoided. A maximum speed should be in the range of eighty to one hundred and ten kilometers per hour. And even then, it is worth accelerating to such numbers only if necessary.

However, to stand idle for a long time Idling also not worth it.

Among other things, there is a ban on the use of trailers and other types of additional load.

Like many other cars, the Lada Grant has its own weaknesses, which are commonly called "diseases". Some "diseases" will not keep you waiting long and will manifest themselves already during the first time of operation, while others will make themselves felt only with more or less high mileage. Some of the problems have been recognized by the manufacturer and can be fixed in salons official dealers, while the other part will have to be solved independently.

Approximately half of the cars sold after high mileage upset their owners with a breakdown of the generator. Repairing a native part will solve the problem only for a while, so it’s worth installing a generator from Kalina.

The second problem is a broken thermostat. As a result, in winter, the engine does not warm up above 70 degrees, or even at a temperature of 100 degrees, the fan does not work. The solution is to replace the thermostat with an analogue from VAZ 21082 or from Kalina.

At idle, engine vibration is felt in the cabin. Officially, this problem is not recognized, and therefore the way out is to pull the mounting pads.

Strongly tightened pipes under the hood after a while begin to crack in the places where the clamp is tightened. You can save the situation by loosening the clamps.

The howling in the gearbox, the tight movement of the handle and its freezing in cold weather is one of the unpleasant surprises that Grant presents to its owners. Bay in a box synthetic oil 75w90, You will only get rid of the howl a little, but solve the problem of freezing the handle

Hard plastic in the cabin is far from the best design solution for modern car, but this, at least, can be reconciled due to the lack of creaking. Annoying here is another problem - the creak of the ceiling sheathing, which most often manifests itself at negative air temperatures. Also, the owners of Lada Granta complain about a crack at the top of the windshield or rear window, saloon lamp and poor sound insulation. There is no official solution to the problem yet, so you will either have to change the skin and improve sound insulation, or turn on the music louder. On-board computer does not always display data on instantaneous fuel consumption, which is one of its main tasks. The glove box lid sometimes opens if you close it before the first louder click. Therefore, it must be closed until the second quiet click. The very weak round handles for adjusting the angle of the front seatbacks are also annoying. If possible, they should be touched less or done more carefully.

sweating rear lights may be the result of blockage of ventilation ducts, which the manufacturer recommends checking.

A poorly closing trunk is another problem inherent in a budget domestic sedan. Pulling the lock loop will eliminate this defect. It happens that during access to the mounting compartment, a chip falls off the trunk open button. In this case, you will have to make an extension cord from 20 cm wire, 10 cm heat shrink tubing and four terminals.

  • Manufacturer- AVTOVAZ, Russia
  • Year of issue - 2012
  • In operation "Behind the wheel"- since August 2012
  • Mileage at the time of the report- 90,000 km
  • Publications in ZR - 2012, № 10; 2014, № 1 ; 2015, № 7

At the 70‑thousand run on braking, the pedal began to “tremble”. Suspicion fell on the front brake discs. They were checked by measuring the axial runout - the preliminary diagnosis was confirmed. Perhaps the disks led after several intensive braking. The brake discs were replaced, of course, along with - the vibration disappeared.

At 73,000 km, periodic dips and jerks appeared at low speeds and lower gears. On city trips, especially during peak traffic jams, this was very annoying. In addition, the signal lit up on the instrument panel ruffled the nerves check engine. Diagnostics showed a "misfire" error. We checked the spark plugs, replaced the high-voltage wires, carefully examined the wiring, using diagnostic equipment tested the ignition module - everything is normal. However, the engine continued to twitch. While we were thinking what to do next, a miracle happened - the engine started to work smoothly again. And the disease never showed up again. Wonders...

At 88,000 km, another control lamp lit up, announcing a malfunction of the ABS. The cause was quickly determined: the sensor wire on the rear wheel fell off. Moreover, this malfunction arose again - shortly before that, the sensor had already been repaired. Repair combined with replacement brake drums along with the pads: the old grinding noise when braking. Disassembly showed uneven wear. At the same time, the rear wheel bearing was replaced, which already had a fair amount of play.

The biggest trouble lay in wait for Grant at 89,900 km. More than a hundred kilometers from Moscow, the engine suddenly lost power and stalled, and attempts to start it were unsuccessful. On a rope, Lada proceeded to the technical center, where she received a disappointing verdict: a jammed water pump cut off the teeth on the timing belt, the phases shifted and the pistons met the valves. And after all, nothing foreshadowed trouble: the pump pulley did not play, there were no alarming noises and whistles, and the belt was changed at 75,000 km.

Dismantling the engine reassured me a little: only the valves were damaged. True, all eight. The pistons are intact, although there are marks on them from a sudden meeting. You can say they got away little blood- Valves had to be replaced valve stem seals, engine gaskets, pump and timing belt with roller. Spare parts lightened the pocket by about 8,000 rubles, and the work was done on their own - on the side repair cost would be another eight thousand.

Judging by the feedback on the Internet forums, we are far from the only ones with whom such a nuisance happened. And the culprit of a serious engine repair turned out to be, again, a failed water pump. We will try to figure out what the reason is and will tell about it in the next reports. And Grant is back in the ranks and continues to wind up the mileage.

P.S. When the material was already being prepared for layout, a colleague called: Granta died out a few kilometers from the editorial office. What happened to her this time, we will tell later. Yes, the old woman does not let you get bored.

Operation and maintenance costs (15,000–90,000 km)*, rub.

Maintenance costs: 15,000–60,000 km

Of which for gasoline (AI-92, AI-95, average consumption 8.2 l/100 km)

Maintenance costs: 60,000–90,000 km

Of which for gasoline (AI-92, AI-95, average consumption 8.4 l / 100 km)

TO-75,000 km (independently)

Wiper blades

Front brake pads

Front brake discs

High voltage wires

TO-90 000 km (independently)

21.09.2016

LADA Granta ) is a model that was developed in order to change the negative opinion of consumers about the products of the Russian auto industry. AvtoVAZ for a very long time did not dare to stop the production of its "legendary classic", which has been produced since the days of the USSR. However, time does not stand still, and a new model has come to replace it. Lada Granta was created on the same platform as Kalina, so they have many similar technical aspects. Some units migrated from. But how reliable the car turned out and whether it will be able to please the owners with good driving performance after 3 - 5 years of operation, now we will try to figure it out.

A bit of history.

In a difficult year for AvtoVAZ, 2008, in order to attract buyers, it was necessary to urgently create new model, while the cost of developing new technical solutions should have been minimal. Therefore, it was decided to develop new car on the platform previously produced Kalina. And already at the beginning of 2009, the first sketches appeared, on the basis of which it was decided to launch the Lada Grant project. It took AvtoVAZ designers more than two years to create a new car. In 2011, the first copies of the car rolled off the assembly line, and in the summer of 2012, versions with automatic transmission gears. At the beginning of 2013, a slight restyling was carried out, as a result of which, the manual gearbox received a new shift mechanism and synchronizers - this provided a clearer and easier gear shift. In the same year, the production of a restyled version of the 16-valve 1.6 engine began, the power of which was increased from 98 to 106 horsepower.

Problem areas Lada Granta with mileage

Lada Granta was offered in three equipment options - these are "Standard", "Norma" and "Lux". Each of the configurations had its own type of engine, with the same volume of 1.6 liters, but different types and power. Poor configurations are equipped with 8-valve engines of 80 and 90 hp, and the luxury version of 16 valve engine 98 and 106 HP

The timing drive of all motors is driven by a belt, which is recommended to be changed at least once every 50,000 km. There were cases when, on an 8-valve engine, when the timing belt broke, the valves remained intact, and it was possible to do without expensive repairs, but such cases are rare, so it is not worth delaying with the replacement of the belt. But Lada Granta has a lot of small unpleasant surprises, such as oil leaks from under the cylinder head and oil seals. Basically, the 8-valve engine is very reliable and time-tested, and if an extra dozen horses under the hood is not so important to you, then it is better to prefer this particular engine. But the 16-valve engine is more capricious, expensive to maintain and repair.

Contrary to the opinion about the unreliability of VAZ engines, almost from the first days of operation, the reviews of the owners indicate the opposite. And if you rely on them, then we can conclude that the motors, with proper maintenance without repair, serve up to 120,000 km, then the compression begins to slowly deteriorate, and, accordingly, the power, and by 170 - 220 a replacement will be required piston group. By 100,000 km, oil seals begin to tan, as a result, oil consumption increases significantly.

Transmission

The main claims of the owners to mechanical box gears, not so much to its reliability, but to performance characteristics. Most often, owners blame for constant rattling and screeching during gear changes, and as the speed increases, the box begins to vibrate. This set is complemented by a creak when the clutch pedal is pressed, there are several reasons for this creak - if the sound comes from the pedal itself, then most likely the reason is in the pedal mounting sleeve, and if from the motor side, then the tip leash creaks. being treated this feature graphite lubricant.

The clutch does not last very long, an average of 50,000 km, and if you have to replace the clutch, then it is better to give preference to imported parts, as they are much more pleasant to use, although they are more expensive. Grants with automatic transmission Japanese manufacturer Jatco". As experience has shown, automatic transmission has an unpleasant feature. So in wet weather, the transmission control unit often fails, this happens due to the fact that the unit is under the left wing, and moisture from under the wheels gets on the microcircuits. As a result, the car may not start or the gearbox may not work correctly.

Driving performance Lada Granta

Lada Granta is not much different from previous cars produced at the AvtoVAZ plant. Still the same not very reliable suspension, it has not become smaller and negative reviews owners who complain about extraneous sounds when driving unevenness, almost from the very beginning of operation. Stretching the suspension often helps to eliminate the reaching sounds, but unfortunately not for long. In addition, the suspension can hardly be called comfortable.

Suspension resource:

  • Most often, owners have to change the support bearings of the struts, this happens every 10 - 20 thousand km, depending on the operating conditions.
  • Shock absorbers - up to 30,000 km.
  • CV joints - an average of 40,000 km.
  • Wheel bearings will last 40 - 50 thousand km.
  • Silent blocks - 60,000 km.

This model is equipped with an electric power steering, which is more reliable than that of the same Kalina, since a Korean MANGO unit is installed here. The first tightening of the rack usually occurs in the region of 40,000 km, but the service life of the steering tips directly depends on the operating conditions of the car. And if you are a careful driver, then you will have to change them every 30,000 km.

Salon

Salon Lada Granta is not the owner of the most sophisticated design and quality materials, also even in the most expensive configuration, low quality vibration and noise insulation. But this is a problem for all cars in this price segment, both Russian and European. In addition to squeaks in the cabin, owners often encounter minor troubles, such as a falling off ceiling light or a non-closing glove compartment. If we talk about the reliability of the electrics of this car, then the cars in basic configurations usually nothing happens. All the shortcomings went to cars in maximum configuration where there is a large amount of electronic equipment.

Outcome:

Until recently, the manufacturer gave a 3-year warranty or 50,000 km for their car, and from March 1, 2014, the warranty line was increased to 5 years or 100,000 km. However, this warranty is limited to some components. When buying a Lada Grant, you can count on up to 100,000 problems with power units this car is extremely rare. After the warranty expires, you need to be prepared for expensive car repairs. But suspension repairs will have to be done quite often, the only good news is that the parts are inexpensive and always available in almost all stores.

If you are or have been the owner of this brand of car, please share your experience, indicating the strengths and weaknesses of the car. Perhaps it is your review that will help others correctly .

Lada Granta is great option budget sedan. The car is front-wheel drive, it has an attractive appearance and a pretty decent set. The cost of the vehicle is low, so it is in demand in the market. Despite modern specifications, new engine, enhanced security system and rich equipment the car has flaws. You need to know and take them into account when purchasing a Lada Grant model.

As practice shows, any car has its weak points. Lada Granta is no exception. This brand the car is not perfect, and after a series of studies, its sores were identified, which eventually spoil the whole picture and become the cause frequent breakdown. Therefore, they require special attention from the owner of the vehicle.

Weaknesses of Lada Grant:

  • Salon;
  • headlights;
  • Electronics;
  • Thermostat;
  • Body;
  • Chassis;
  • Transmission;
  • Brake pads.

Now more…

Salon is clearly the weak side of the car. Already from the first minutes of operation of the car, you can notice a number of its shortcomings. The first is connected to the handle responsible for adjusting the seat. It is quite fragile and breaks quickly. In addition, the gear lever cover also leaves much to be desired. The material is poor quality and cracks quickly. During operation, it constantly crawls out from under the knob.

Almost immediately, the light that controls the operation of the airbags begins to flash. She points to their failure. Soon failing power windows. They begin to jam and make an unpleasant sound when the glass is lowered.

The car has air conditioning, but the quality of its work is quite low. He doesn't do his job well. During the day in the heat of his work is almost invisible. Especially if the car is parked.

Lights, electronics, thermostat

Taillights are the weak point. They sweat quickly and are poorly secured. There are large gaps on the side of the lamps, in which dust and dirt quickly accumulate. You will need to take action to remove it.

As for electronics, it became a disadvantage on the first cars of this model. Quite often, the ECU is flooded along the wiring harness. In addition, generator malfunctions occur. The problem lies in its bearings and belt.

In principle, the cooling system has no complaints. Problems appear only with the thermostat, and then not for all models. This sore is mainly characteristic of cars manufactured before 2012.

The above disadvantages are minor and relatively harmless. If we talk about the body, then this is a serious minus of the vehicle. The paint on it wears off quickly. As a result, the body is left without a protective layer and begins to rust. This indicates that the installation of the car was not carried out correctly. At the same time, plastic bumpers are not painted at all, which many buyers do not really like.

Chassis, transmission, brake pads

The chassis of the car has become its major drawback. The front struts eventually begin to make an unpleasant sound. It manifests itself in the form of a knock after 6 thousand kilometers. Over time, the tie rod brackets on the front suspension can burst.

The appearance of a howl in the checkpoint indicates a failure in the operation of the gearbox. This problem often worries car owners. In addition, this part has a tight ride on a cold one. She doesn't take it well low temperatures. In winter, the handle is likely to freeze. You can solve this problem, it is enough to change the oil in the gearbox to synthetics.

Brake pads with which Lada Granta is equipped, low quality. Over time, they emit an unpleasant creak and squeal. In addition, brake discs wear out quickly.

The handbrake cable is not very well fixed in the car. Experts advise starting to operate the vehicle with extreme caution. It will take time to get used to this feature.

The main disadvantages of LADA Granta

The Lada Grant car has pros and cons. The latter are quite important, as they often cause the failure of the vehicle. The main disadvantages of Lada Grant are presented as:

  1. Rear drum brake;
  2. Weak motor;
  3. Lack of rear armrests and ceiling handles;
  4. One airbag, which is installed for the driver;
  5. The minimum set of options;
  6. Lack of engine temperature sensor;
  7. Creaking body;
  8. Incorrect operation of the climate system.

Conclusion.

The list of disadvantages of Lada Grant is quite large, but many of them can be avoided. For this, care must be taken with vehicle and timely maintenance. Replacing a broken part with an analog one will improve the quality of the car and reduce the likelihood of it breaking down again.

P.S.: Dear owners of the Granta, if you have noticed a systematic breakdown of any components, assemblies or parts of the Lada Granta, please report it in the comments below. Let's keep statistics together weaknesses and shortcomings of cars of this model.

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